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	<title>Comments on: Requirements for Accreditation</title>
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	<description>Maria (Murphy) Horrigan talks about Business Analysis, User Centred Design in Requirements Development and Business Process Improvement</description>
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		<title>By: magia3e</title>
		<link>http://barocks.com/2007/07/23/requirements-for-accreditation/#comment-29</link>
		<author>magia3e</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The distinction you've made here between ABAA and IIBA is a very interesting one. It suggests that ABBA say there's a base-line requirements you should need before calling yourself a BA, whereas IIBA say do that, plus know &lt;b&gt;our&lt;/b&gt; methodology, and pass &lt;b&gt;our&lt;/b&gt; exam before you can call yourself a BA.

I this says much to me about the intent driving each. 

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The distinction you&#8217;ve made here between ABAA and IIBA is a very interesting one. It suggests that ABBA say there&#8217;s a base-line requirements you should need before calling yourself a BA, whereas IIBA say do that, plus know <b>our</b> methodology, and pass <b>our</b> exam before you can call yourself a BA.</p>
<p>I this says much to me about the intent driving each. </p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: horri</title>
		<link>http://barocks.com/2007/07/23/requirements-for-accreditation/#comment-28</link>
		<author>horri</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Adrian, you make a really good point. Yes, experience is very valuable and a piece of paper cannot intrinisically make someone better at a task. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It comes down to argumnet of "Books smarts" vs "street smarts" and I think you will find that the accreditation process does try to recognise both forms of learning in its process. Accreditation is not the end point, its just part of a learning journey and does not replace the experience gained along the way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maria&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, you make a really good point. Yes, experience is very valuable and a piece of paper cannot intrinisically make someone better at a task. </p>
<p>It comes down to argumnet of &#8220;Books smarts&#8221; vs &#8220;street smarts&#8221; and I think you will find that the accreditation process does try to recognise both forms of learning in its process. Accreditation is not the end point, its just part of a learning journey and does not replace the experience gained along the way.</p>
<p>Maria</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Boyd</title>
		<link>http://barocks.com/2007/07/23/requirements-for-accreditation/#comment-27</link>
		<author>Andrew Boyd</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maria,

as an IA and a consultant this accreditation stuff can seem like a bit of a pointless exercise sometimes. I'm disqualified for some jobs by virtue of the fact that I did not finish my degree, but I do not think that it ever cost me anything in the way of billing rate - this is based on what I can do rather than anything outside of myself. That said, I believe the degree (or any other form of external accreditation) can help to establish initial credibility, in the same way that the black suit and shiny shoes do.

Do you think that BAs should feel poorer for not being an ABAA or IIBA member? Does any form of accreditation intrinsically make them better at their tasks? Is there some special quality that is conveyed with the piece of paper? Or is it a prop that some need and others do not?

Cheers, Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maria,</p>
<p>as an IA and a consultant this accreditation stuff can seem like a bit of a pointless exercise sometimes. I&#8217;m disqualified for some jobs by virtue of the fact that I did not finish my degree, but I do not think that it ever cost me anything in the way of billing rate - this is based on what I can do rather than anything outside of myself. That said, I believe the degree (or any other form of external accreditation) can help to establish initial credibility, in the same way that the black suit and shiny shoes do.</p>
<p>Do you think that BAs should feel poorer for not being an ABAA or IIBA member? Does any form of accreditation intrinsically make them better at their tasks? Is there some special quality that is conveyed with the piece of paper? Or is it a prop that some need and others do not?</p>
<p>Cheers, Andrew</p>
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